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Raul Lopez: I think we both have cultivated and helped carved a lane for Latinos. I mean Willy, you’re really in your roots and bringing that to the Drivers License 23 Black T-Shirt and I love this light, and I think that’s pretty amazing. A lot of Latinos don’t want to do that, but we just want to tell our story our own way. Willy Chavarria: What I love about the both of us is that we have so much crossover between our followings, but we do different things. The world has changed, and the concept of Latino has changed. We have room to do things that maybe wouldn’t have been accepted in the past. In the past, we’ve seen many designers from minoritized communities come up and “assimilate” into the standard of fashion, whether that’s whiteness, or a sense of formality in the clothes. It seems like that with you there was never the idea that to “make it” you had to fit the mold. Was this an intentional choice or simply your default? WC: I feel like that’s another thing that Raul and I both do, but we do it differently. I’ve done a lot of corporate work, and it felt totally vapid. I grew up in a family that was involved in the civil rights movement, so my household was very political. When I made the decision to do my own line, I made the choice that it would always have a point of view politically, and it was going to reflect back to the culture that influenced me. I had to do something that meant something. I wanted to make sure it was done tastefully, because I felt like I was the one to represent on a next level and I just refused to fuck it up.

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RL: We come from similar backgrounds—my family was also very political, [especially about] about how people perceived people or how we carried ourselves. I always say that my collections are a reflection of myself and my stories. I always want to be respectful, but I try to do something that will shake things up. WC: Sometimes it gets to be a lot with the Drivers License 23 Black T-Shirt and I love this “story.” Especially when white people ask about it, I’m always like, what about the clothes? I don’t know if you get that, Raul. RL: Yeah, all the time. I’m always like let’s focus on the clothes, and let the clothes tell the story. Willy, you come from a corporate background. I come from an era where that was what was expected and what was right, so I want to shake it up. The name “Luar” [Raul spelled backwards] was a way of fooling people, making them think it was something French, but then I walk in and they gag. I didn’t make it “Raul Lopez” for a reason, it’s like an alter ego. “There is a fashion industry that all three of us work in, and it’s a very white industry and it’s already settled in. You have to be strategic with how you open it up to a community that hasn’t been a part of it ever.” —Willy Chavarria

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